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		<title>By: Jay</title>
		<link>http://criticalanklebites.com/2009/03/05/i-have-a-phb2-and-you-dont/#comment-1277</link>
		<dc:creator>Jay</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 10 Mar 2009 07:25:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>We played a one-shot where I must have tried Chaos Bolt with my sorcerer 20 or so times, and only got it to ricochet once.  Just bad luck, I think.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>We played a one-shot where I must have tried Chaos Bolt with my sorcerer 20 or so times, and only got it to ricochet once.  Just bad luck, I think.</p>
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		<title>By: Graham</title>
		<link>http://criticalanklebites.com/2009/03/05/i-have-a-phb2-and-you-dont/#comment-1265</link>
		<dc:creator>Graham</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 08 Mar 2009 18:22:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Heh. No, &lt;i&gt;Endless Acid&lt;/i&gt; has saves.  It&#039;s just a fun power.

At-Will?

The Bard&#039;s &lt;i&gt;Misdirected Mark&lt;/i&gt; and &lt;i&gt;Vicious Mockery&lt;/i&gt; are my personal favourites, though the latter mainly for flavour reasons.

Druid&#039;s &lt;i&gt;Chill Wind&lt;/i&gt; and Sorcerer&#039;s &lt;i&gt;Chaos Bolt&lt;/i&gt; are close seconds.

&lt;i&gt;Pressing Strike&lt;/i&gt; is awesome, of course.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Heh. No, <i>Endless Acid</i> has saves.  It&#8217;s just a fun power.</p>
<p>At-Will?</p>
<p>The Bard&#8217;s <i>Misdirected Mark</i> and <i>Vicious Mockery</i> are my personal favourites, though the latter mainly for flavour reasons.</p>
<p>Druid&#8217;s <i>Chill Wind</i> and Sorcerer&#8217;s <i>Chaos Bolt</i> are close seconds.</p>
<p><i>Pressing Strike</i> is awesome, of course.</p>
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		<title>By: yesnomu</title>
		<link>http://criticalanklebites.com/2009/03/05/i-have-a-phb2-and-you-dont/#comment-1264</link>
		<dc:creator>yesnomu</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 08 Mar 2009 18:09:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Haha, alright, that stuff sounds sweet. Is Endless Acid a (no save) effect or something? Whatever the case, I&#039;m intrigued.

Alright, flipside time. What&#039;s your favorite at-will in there? I&#039;d be amazed if anything ends up cooler than Pressing Strike, but we&#039;ll see.

Of course, I guess there&#039;re only 3 or 4 at-wills we don&#039;t know by now...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Haha, alright, that stuff sounds sweet. Is Endless Acid a (no save) effect or something? Whatever the case, I&#8217;m intrigued.</p>
<p>Alright, flipside time. What&#8217;s your favorite at-will in there? I&#8217;d be amazed if anything ends up cooler than Pressing Strike, but we&#8217;ll see.</p>
<p>Of course, I guess there&#8217;re only 3 or 4 at-wills we don&#8217;t know by now&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Graham</title>
		<link>http://criticalanklebites.com/2009/03/05/i-have-a-phb2-and-you-dont/#comment-1255</link>
		<dc:creator>Graham</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 07 Mar 2009 22:08:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@yesnomu -

Heh.  The link actually appeared in my rss feed about 2 minutes after posting my comment, so don&#039;t feel bad. :P


Level 29s, eh?  Everyone wants the big epic stuff.

Lessee... the Avenger &lt;i&gt;Temple of Resolution&lt;/i&gt; is sweet.  You and enemy are locked into combat.  He&#039;s damaged if he leaves, and all other enemies are damaged if they come into the zone.  Your allies are free to come in, though.

Solely based on the title, &lt;i&gt;World Serpent Rage&lt;/i&gt; is fucking sweet.  It&#039;s a pretty good power besides that, too.  And it&#039;s a level 29 daily rage that you can use on a charge instead of a basic attack.  And since some barbarians charge a real lot...

The Shaman can invoke the power of Death.  As in, literally, &quot;Death itself, the ender of all things&quot;.  Yeah.

The Bard has &lt;i&gt;Hero&#039;s Beacon&lt;/i&gt;, which is freaking sweet and is one of my favourite powers.  Weapon power, does some damage, and creates a zone.  This zone damages enemies every round, heal allies, and MOVES WITH THE ENEMY YOU HIT (meaning that enemy can not get out of the damaging zone).  Fuck yes!

The Sorcerer... oh, the Sorcerer.  This class has a lot of awesome powers.  The names of the level 29s are &lt;i&gt;Prismatic Storm&lt;/i&gt;, &lt;i&gt;Entropic Whirlwind&lt;/i&gt;, and &lt;i&gt;Endless Acid&lt;/i&gt;, and all are awesome.  &lt;i&gt;Prismatic Storm&lt;/i&gt; is, as the name indicates, fucking random.  &lt;i&gt;Entropic Whirlwind&lt;/i&gt; is a fun, havoc-wreaking power.  And &lt;i&gt;Endless Acid&lt;/i&gt; only does 1d6 damage, as a level 29 daily, yet it&#039;s still my favourite of the bunch.  I&#039;ll leave you guessing as to why. ^_^


All the classes have some awesome shit going on, though.  There are a three different classes with level 29 dailies that have &quot;Hit: Dominated (save ends)&quot;, with awesome stuff even on a miss.

As good as Legion&#039;s Hold, though?

Little is.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@yesnomu -</p>
<p>Heh.  The link actually appeared in my rss feed about 2 minutes after posting my comment, so don&#8217;t feel bad. <img src='http://criticalanklebites.com/wp-content/plugins/smilies-themer/adiumicons/tongue.png' alt=':P' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<p>Level 29s, eh?  Everyone wants the big epic stuff.</p>
<p>Lessee&#8230; the Avenger <i>Temple of Resolution</i> is sweet.  You and enemy are locked into combat.  He&#8217;s damaged if he leaves, and all other enemies are damaged if they come into the zone.  Your allies are free to come in, though.</p>
<p>Solely based on the title, <i>World Serpent Rage</i> is fucking sweet.  It&#8217;s a pretty good power besides that, too.  And it&#8217;s a level 29 daily rage that you can use on a charge instead of a basic attack.  And since some barbarians charge a real lot&#8230;</p>
<p>The Shaman can invoke the power of Death.  As in, literally, &#8220;Death itself, the ender of all things&#8221;.  Yeah.</p>
<p>The Bard has <i>Hero&#8217;s Beacon</i>, which is freaking sweet and is one of my favourite powers.  Weapon power, does some damage, and creates a zone.  This zone damages enemies every round, heal allies, and MOVES WITH THE ENEMY YOU HIT (meaning that enemy can not get out of the damaging zone).  Fuck yes!</p>
<p>The Sorcerer&#8230; oh, the Sorcerer.  This class has a lot of awesome powers.  The names of the level 29s are <i>Prismatic Storm</i>, <i>Entropic Whirlwind</i>, and <i>Endless Acid</i>, and all are awesome.  <i>Prismatic Storm</i> is, as the name indicates, fucking random.  <i>Entropic Whirlwind</i> is a fun, havoc-wreaking power.  And <i>Endless Acid</i> only does 1d6 damage, as a level 29 daily, yet it&#8217;s still my favourite of the bunch.  I&#8217;ll leave you guessing as to why. <img src='http://criticalanklebites.com/wp-content/plugins/smilies-themer/adiumicons/joyful.png' alt='^_^' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<p>All the classes have some awesome shit going on, though.  There are a three different classes with level 29 dailies that have &#8220;Hit: Dominated (save ends)&#8221;, with awesome stuff even on a miss.</p>
<p>As good as Legion&#8217;s Hold, though?</p>
<p>Little is.</p>
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		<title>By: yesnomu</title>
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		<dc:creator>yesnomu</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 07 Mar 2009 21:31:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks for the link! I hadn&#039;t seen that one. Agh, oh well.

So, of the level 29 powers, what impresses you the most? Is there anything as absurdly awesome as Legion&#039;s Hold?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks for the link! I hadn&#8217;t seen that one. Agh, oh well.</p>
<p>So, of the level 29 powers, what impresses you the most? Is there anything as absurdly awesome as Legion&#8217;s Hold?</p>
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		<title>By: Berin Kinsman</title>
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		<dc:creator>Berin Kinsman</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 06 Mar 2009 22:22:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>HAH HAH HAH!!! I have one too! Soon our little insder cabal will RULE the WORLD! BWAH hah hah hah hah hah hah hah hah hah hah!!!!!!!!!!!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>HAH HAH HAH!!! I have one too! Soon our little insder cabal will RULE the WORLD! BWAH hah hah hah hah hah hah hah hah hah hah!!!!!!!!!!!</p>
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		<title>By: Graham</title>
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		<dc:creator>Graham</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 06 Mar 2009 07:41:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Ah, I see.

Yeah, the non-beast-form ones are perhaps more controller-ish, partly due to the fact they are easier to add statuses or make area effects.  The beast-form powers verge into Striker, largely, though most have their own controller-ish effects as well.  From my skimming, the ones without controller-ish effects tend to be more maneuverability-focused (allowing shifts, for instance).  Also useful for a controller.

But yes, a level 30 Predator druid could be just as good a controller as a Guardian.  If he takes all of the Predator encounter powers, however, he will lean somewhat towards striker, but he&#039;ll still be a pretty good controller, IMO.

re: Flight

Yeah, we were pretty much told that ever since the first 4e preview articles, where they wanted to get rid of a lot of the &quot;yeah, I bypass everything&quot; abilities.  But I wouldn&#039;t expect permanent flight to show up as a class ability, anyways.  I&#039;d expect a ritual.

And no, that&#039;s not a hint.  I haven&#039;t actually read the rituals yet. :P

re: ___ Expertise

Sorry, man, but we aren&#039;t giving away rules text yet.  Suffice it to say it&#039;s a Heroic feat.

EDIT: On the other hand, you could &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.wizards.com/default.asp?x=dnd/4ex/20090306&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;look here&lt;/a&gt;.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ah, I see.</p>
<p>Yeah, the non-beast-form ones are perhaps more controller-ish, partly due to the fact they are easier to add statuses or make area effects.  The beast-form powers verge into Striker, largely, though most have their own controller-ish effects as well.  From my skimming, the ones without controller-ish effects tend to be more maneuverability-focused (allowing shifts, for instance).  Also useful for a controller.</p>
<p>But yes, a level 30 Predator druid could be just as good a controller as a Guardian.  If he takes all of the Predator encounter powers, however, he will lean somewhat towards striker, but he&#8217;ll still be a pretty good controller, IMO.</p>
<p>re: Flight</p>
<p>Yeah, we were pretty much told that ever since the first 4e preview articles, where they wanted to get rid of a lot of the &#8220;yeah, I bypass everything&#8221; abilities.  But I wouldn&#8217;t expect permanent flight to show up as a class ability, anyways.  I&#8217;d expect a ritual.</p>
<p>And no, that&#8217;s not a hint.  I haven&#8217;t actually read the rituals yet. <img src='http://criticalanklebites.com/wp-content/plugins/smilies-themer/adiumicons/tongue.png' alt=':P' class='wp-smiley' /><br />
re: ___ Expertise</p>
<p>Sorry, man, but we aren&#8217;t giving away rules text yet.  Suffice it to say it&#8217;s a Heroic feat.</p>
<p>EDIT: On the other hand, you could <a href="http://www.wizards.com/default.asp?x=dnd/4ex/20090306" rel="nofollow">look here</a>.</p>
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		<title>By: yesnomu</title>
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		<dc:creator>yesnomu</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 06 Mar 2009 07:17:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks for the response!

By lopsided, I meant the non-beastform powers seemed to be more &quot;controllerish&quot; and effective than the beastform ones. The non-beast dailies like Faerie Fire and Prison of Winds pretty much outclassed the beast one. Does that improve later on? Would a level 30 Predator druid be about as good a controller as a Guardian? I really hope that both parts are balanced and viable.

Bah about flight only being daily. I would have thought an at-will flight form not overpowered at all at level 22. I guess that&#039;s what Zephyr Boots are for, though.

Does Weapon/Implement Expertise have pre-reqs, by the way?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks for the response!</p>
<p>By lopsided, I meant the non-beastform powers seemed to be more &#8220;controllerish&#8221; and effective than the beastform ones. The non-beast dailies like Faerie Fire and Prison of Winds pretty much outclassed the beast one. Does that improve later on? Would a level 30 Predator druid be about as good a controller as a Guardian? I really hope that both parts are balanced and viable.</p>
<p>Bah about flight only being daily. I would have thought an at-will flight form not overpowered at all at level 22. I guess that&#8217;s what Zephyr Boots are for, though.</p>
<p>Does Weapon/Implement Expertise have pre-reqs, by the way?</p>
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		<title>By: Graham</title>
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		<dc:creator>Graham</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 06 Mar 2009 04:33:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@lookintomyeyes -

You played a Ranger, Wilder (your Psion, the Wilder is a more wild Psion), Dwarf Cleric (mostly due to my asking for someone to be a cleric, and you deciding to go &quot;against type&quot; as a dwarf :P ), and Elf Wizard/Druid.

And heck, your Dwarf Cleric often acted like an Elf Druid anyways. :D

But really, I mean everything from D&amp;D to your larping.  You have a thing for elves and a thing for &quot;natural&quot; classes (ranger/druid/herbalist).</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@lookintomyeyes -</p>
<p>You played a Ranger, Wilder (your Psion, the Wilder is a more wild Psion), Dwarf Cleric (mostly due to my asking for someone to be a cleric, and you deciding to go &#8220;against type&#8221; as a dwarf <img src='http://criticalanklebites.com/wp-content/plugins/smilies-themer/adiumicons/tongue.png' alt=':P' class='wp-smiley' /> ), and Elf Wizard/Druid.</p>
<p>And heck, your Dwarf Cleric often acted like an Elf Druid anyways. <img src='http://criticalanklebites.com/wp-content/plugins/smilies-themer/adiumicons/biggrin.png' alt=':D' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<p>But really, I mean everything from D&#038;D to your larping.  You have a thing for elves and a thing for &#8220;natural&#8221; classes (ranger/druid/herbalist).</p>
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		<title>By: Graham</title>
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		<dc:creator>Graham</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 06 Mar 2009 04:28:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>By the way, I should also note:

The package was delivered by FedEx, took only 2 days to ship, I was charged no extra fees for crossing the border, and there was no trouble at any other time.

I say again: Fuck UPS.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>By the way, I should also note:</p>
<p>The package was delivered by FedEx, took only 2 days to ship, I was charged no extra fees for crossing the border, and there was no trouble at any other time.</p>
<p>I say again: Fuck UPS.</p>
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